In this special bonus episode of The Forum Podcast, Lilian Eilers (The Blue Ocean Company) answer questions from listeners that attended our December 16, 2021 webinar Demystifying Culture: Building an Inclusive Culture that Lasts.

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Lilian Eilers answer questions from our listening audience around these talking points:

  • What is SWAM?
  • Doesn’t pandering to the SWAM group have a reinforcing effect on their already disproportionate power and privilege?
  • How can we prevent our culture change mission from becoming a struggle for power or domination?
  • Does SWAM reinforce superiority and dominance?
  • How to address a scarcity versus abundance mindset, especially with the SWAM group?
  • How we can make the shift from extrinsic to intrinsic?
  • What does it look like to promote psychological safety?
  • How to make the “business” case for first responders (Fire Department/EMS etc.).
  • What are the distinctions between urgency and speed? Where can a balance be found between the two to advance culture change?

For additional context and insight into this topic and conversation, watch the replay of Demystifying Culture: Building an Inclusive Culture that Lasts.


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